How To Eat Clean By Listening To Your Body | JJ Virgin

♪ [music] ♪- [Gregorio] Thank you so much,
JJ, for all of these wonderful information. It’s wonderful to hear how many people are
going to change their life thanks to your talk because I am practicing most of the things
that you’re sharing for about a year and my life is changing dramatically. So thank you so much for sharing it. I would like to ask you because I’m having
a vegan diet I would like to know from you, because you always mention about good fat
and, yeah, good fat, what you think is the best. Because I know that soy is not too good. I know [inaudible 00:00:39] is not too good. I know that most of the things… – [JJ] Yes. – So I would like to hear. – So vegan diet…and I’m happy to share. Like I have a vegan guide that goes through
how you can do this as a vegan. One of the biggest challenges with a vegan
diet, if you are committed to being a vegan because of spiritual reasons I will absolutely
go through and support you. If it’s for health reasons, I’m going to absolutely
go and say that this is not the healthy diet. – No, the main reason is because I love this
planet and I want to take care of it. – Yeah, so if it’s a spiritual reason then
I support. Then I absolutely support it and I’ll show
you how to do it, but I always tell people, like, “Okay, like, let’s look through because
there’s been a lot of misinformation out there on animal products.” Here’s the deal, don’t eat animals that have
been tortured, trashed, fed crappy stuff because you are what you ate. Right? I mean this is just…like we have got to
change our farming. Just…now I’m blanking on beautiful Emily
just said…but in terms of a vegan diet, you can do it and be super healthy. You just also have to be super focused with
how you do it and I’m happy to give you this vegan guide that I’ve put together. The challenge with the vegan diet is to get
enough protein you have to be very careful that you don’t over carb because all of your
protein’s going to come with either carbs or fat. So I go the higher fat route, of course, with
it and the foods that I tend to focus on, soy is a really problematic food. I am not a fan of soy. No joy in soy. In fact, what the studies show is that people
who eat more soy have higher rates of dementia, Alzheimer’s. They had a study in Hawaii where they looked
at Japanese men in Hawaii and just three servings of soy a week, their brains were smaller. Higher rates of dementia. Don’t want that. That’s not one you want smaller. So where I would look at supplementing your
diet is using some of the different plant-based protein powders. Like pea protein is a great one and hemp protein. Cranberry protein. So I’d absolutely supplement because you’re
going to have to supplement. Then the other thing that I would do is an
amino acid profile and I would look at also supplementing with amino acids customized
to you. So that’s what I would always do as vegans
is look at their amino acid profile and see what they’re going to need, because you’re
not going to get things that you would typically get from meat like carnitine and taurine. And of course you have to do things. Supplement with B12. And then the other issues are Vitamin D and
if you will do Vitamin D3 from…and fortunately you can get some from mushrooms now and, you
know, you can get some from the sun but the best Vitamin D sources are animal sources. If you’re taking it and I find that almost
everybody is deficient in Vitamin D. Some of it’s genetic, some of it’s because we’re
using sunscreen. – [Vishen] JJ? So that’s a lot of information. If…and you have a lot of books out. Which book would you recommend for someone
like Gregorio who wants to address this issue and find out what should his diet look like? – I address that both in “The Sugar Impact
Diet” and and “The Virgin Diet,” and then both of them also have resources where I have
vegan guides that go through…there are very…there’s, like, a whole voomp of what you have to do
as a vegan. Vitamin D, fish oil, like what things you
have to do because you have to get Omega 3s up, too. – And for the people over here, which book
should they start with? How do you know if you should start with “The
Sugar Impact Diet” or “The Virgin Diet?” Because I have difficulty with that, as well. – I do too. You know it’s, like, when I wrote it I was
like, “All right. If I had it all to do over again I might have
started with ‘Sugar Impact.’ “So “Sugar Impact,” what happened was the
number one thing that happened after I wrote “The Virgin Diet” is people went “I can’t
get rid of the sugar.” And what I realized was people are either
controlled by sugar, like they’re addicted to it. It is our number one recreational drug out
there, right? Or…and it is a drug. Let’s be absolutely clear. Sugar is a drug. It is the number one most abused drug that
we have. Sugar. Or they’re confused. Isn’t honey okay? It’s all natural. What about Agave? Agave is the worst thing you could put in
you ever. It is so toxic it’s ridiculous it’s being
touted as a health food. So I wrote…I realized we were looking at
sugar all wrong and it wasn’t about sugar specifically. It was about the impact sugar had, just like
food waste information. So what I would say is if you right now are
suffering from joint pain, headaches, fatigue, gas and bloating, you’ve got an autoimmune
disease start with “The Virgin Diet.” Food cravings. If you are just one of those people that sugar
is just your beast, you cannot get rid of it, start with “The Sugar Impact Diet.” I’m going to go through both in the workshop
this afternoon and how to cross them over. – Great and just to add to that, like, sugar
is one of the most interesting things out there. I so love what you said about it being the
biggest drug that we take, especially in American. I was talking to Mike Heiman yesterday and
he downright said, “Coca-Cola is evil.” And you’ve got to understand what sugar does
to your body. Eric Edmeades, who will be speaking on day
four, I was talking to him and he said, “We evolved as human beings 7,000 years ago when
we were hunter gatherers. Evolutionary biology wise, as we would roam
the jungles and the safaris and the plains and we would see fruit, our natural biology
would be to grab that bunch of bananas and stuff it all into ourselves.” – So that you store fat. – So you store fat because we don’t know when
we’re going to see that next giant bushel of fruit, and it’s not eat one banana. It’s eat all of them. So sugar has an addictive quality. Once you start eating sugar you have to keep
eating and eating and eating and eating. Seven thousand years ago this made sense. Today, when sugar is everywhere, what food
companies have figured out is that when you add sugar to something… – They’ll buy more because you can never get
away from it. – …it creates that…Right. It creates that addictive reaction to keep
consuming it. So you get hooked on sugar and sugar is what
causes weight around you. Not fats. – Right. Fat does not cause weight. We all laugh about it because we eat…all
of us, the health mafia, eat tons of fat. It’s not…but it’s the right fat. You’ve got to make an oil change. You know, we’re not sitting there eating all
these processed fats. – So low fat milk completely unnecessary then? – Low fat milk is liquid sugar. It is the most ridiculous, heinous food ever. No one should…the only worse than low fat
milk is fat-free milk. It’s worse than low fat milk. Or fat-free chocolate milk is worse. Or soy milk. – So basically… – I guess you could put some Nestle’s Quick
into the soy milk and then it could probably be worse than all that. – But giving up sugar is really easy. So I gave up sugar in my coffee at A-Fest
two years ago. Anton are you here? Anton Konin? [SP] – [Anton Smachko] Here. Oh… – No. You’re Anton Smachko. [SP] Anton, okay, so Anton [inaudible 00:06:56]
So we were sitting having coffee and…Anton, stop blushing. Let me share the story. And Anton saw me take a satchel of sugar,
rip it open, and pour the entire thing into my coffee. He’s like…what did you tell me Anton? – [Anton Konin] That’s pure poison. – Exactly. He said something like, “That’s pure poison”
and my reaction was “FU. Nobody tells me how to appreciate my coffee.” But Anton said something else. Anton said, you know, “Try not doing that.” I’m like, “Look, I like it this way. Don’t mess with my style. This is how Vishen drinks his coffee, Anton.” But Anton… – It’s how Vishen poisons himself. Let me do it. – Right, but Anton said something really smart. He’s like, “You know, well it’s easy to get
rid of it. Just start cutting it down.” So at that A-Fest I started cutting it down. In three days. In three days. So that was, like, day two, day four I was
drinking coffee without sugar. And now it’s been two years and I still drink
coffee without sugar. I completely got off it and that’s how easy
it is to unwind that addictive reaction to sugar. – Yeah. You made a very important point, though, that… – I was doing it for three years. – …the critical thing is you tapered. – I unwound it in three days. – One of the big things I teach in “The Sugar
Impact Diet,” when I started to look at, like, why are we so stuck on sugar besides the fact
that…I don’t believe it’s the thing, like, adding the sugar to the coffee. It’s where it’s sneaking into places you’d
never suspect, like the marinara sauce that’s got more sugar than the Oreo cookies. You know? And the fat-free dressings that basically
you turn your salad into a sundae. Or all that dried fruit. So, you know, those are the issues but you
can’t just pull it all out all together because you’ll crash. Because you’ve turned yourself into a sugar
burner so if you transition like you just did, where you taper it down, it’s fantastic. – So to give you guys an idea of how important
this is. Okay, so I mentioned on day one of A-Fest
how I took my body fat down from 22%, which is actually not bad, to 15%, which is actually
pretty lean, and how I lost 7 pounds in 6 weeks. Which is tough because I’m not overweight
but I did want to at least have a more v-shaped figure. Now how I did that, so this was my hack, in
the morning it was JJ Virgin Shakes. So I would take your shake, the chocolate
JJ Virgin Shake. I would add fiber to it. There’s a JJ Virgin Fiber. Explain why is fiber important? – Fiber is the number one thing that we can
do to make a massive change quickly because it does a couple different things. One thing it does is feed the good bacteria
in your gut. Someone mentioned yesterday we have, you know,
basically we’re more bacteria than cells. Well that bacteria in your gut controls your
immune system, your mood, but also can help with your weight because if you have too much
bad bacteria that extracts more calories from the food you eat and stores it as fat, it
can change glucose tolerance. One of the reasons that artificial sweeteners
are bad…one. There’s a gazillion reasons. Is they change the gut microbiome to make
you more intolerant to sugar. So it changes your gut microbiome. It helps with blood sugar balance. So slow release of blood sugar so you don’t
have that spike that causes the big insulin hit that makes you store fat. And it helps you feel fuller longer. And it gives you poops that you can be proud
of. – That’s awesome and now the other thing is
now if you don’t have access to JJ Virgin Shakes you could just make omelet. And what I started doing was, and this was
your advice as well… – Well if you’re not intolerant to your omelet. – If you’re not intolerant to your omelet. I started adding Himalayan Salt, which you
advised me to do. Why Himalayan Salt? – So sea salt is…somehow we’ve gotten this
idea, especially in the States, that salt is bad. Sodium, the salt where they pulled all the
minerals out and sold them to the supplement companies, that is bad but sea salt is actually
very good for your adrenals. It’s rare to find someone who’s not under
some kind of stress because we’re driving ourselves too hard. So it’s a great mineral source to do a little
bit of sea salt. – Now, again, with your advice I took away
one thing from my breakfast and that was juice. I would have orange juice or apple juice and
you shocked me when you said, “Apple juice is as bad as Coca-Cola.” – Worse. It’s worse than Coke. – Worse? Okay. Explain that. – Because it’s higher in fructose and, again,
fructose is the most damaging sugar. Not only does it make your gut more permeable,
it ages you faster. The biggest thing that you can do to age yourself
is high sugar impact, and fructose is the highest of all. The most aging sugar of all. Causes something called glycation which is
like the crust on bread happening to you. Right? – But, you know, orange juice is supposed
to be healthy. Apple juice is supposed to be healthy. – No, oranges might be healthy… – How else am I going to eat my vitamins? – Who told you that apple juice and orange
juice was healthy? – Mom. – Mom? – No, it’s true. I mean it’s how we are raised. – Could Tropicana have gotten some piece of
that? – True, true. – Right? You’ve always got to follow the money chain. I hate to say it but it’s, like, who told
us that snacking was important? Was it the snack pack companies? You know? I mean who told us that fat-free was important? So the juice…juice yes there’s some vitamins
in there. Eat your fruit. You would never sit down and have six oranges. If you eat the fruit you actually are going
to get the white stuff that’s got all the quercetin and bioflavonoids in it. You’re going to get the fiber and you’re going
to eat it slowly and you won’t have six of them. One or two pieces of fruit a day should be
it. It shouldn’t be dried. You just turn it into candy. It shouldn’t be juice. You’ve just unwrapped it and turned it into
a soda. – Perfect. Now the other things I did. Okay, so I took away fruit. That, again, was your advice. Then what was really difficult for me was
giving up alcohol for six weeks because I enjoy my red wine. – I don’t believe you should give up alcohol
so we have a difference of opinion. – Thank you. Phew, that’s such a relief. – I’m a real world nutritionist. I believe in coffee, Dave, and chocolate,
dark. And these are my favorite food groups. And red wine but during “The Sugar Impact
Diet” two weeks and during the Virgin we do pull it out. Because if you can’t pull it out for two or
three weeks we’ve got another issue, but long term, actually, the research shows that people
who drink a little bit of red wine are leaner, fitter, and nicer than those people who don’t. – Right and friendlier and more approachable. – And friendlier, yeah. I like myself better with wine. – And they dance better. – You know? So… – Right, right. So, okay, red wine is okay. What about white wine? What about beer? – Well so when I started doing sugar…in
“Sugar Impact Diet” that’s where you really get the low down on alcohols because I went
through all of them. Because the biggest question I get, like,
what can we drink? The problem with white wine is there’s more
sugar in it. So you want to get the driest…red wine’s
the best. In the States it’s the more expensive because
they’ll actually smuggle in some sugar into some of these. So if you’re doing the Two Buck Chuck at Trader
Joe’s…anyone? Don’t admit it. They can sugar in there. But you want to do the ones that don’t have…that
have the lowest residual sugar. So no champagne. Sorry. – Okay. Let’s… – I know. You liked me there for a minute and then it
was like ugh. Or tequila and I have some great tequila drinks… – Here with you? – No. No, I did not bring my bar with me. – I thought there was an invite. So what about… – I mean recipes. They’re up in here. – Now one of the things you said in previous
times I’ve interviewed you is one of the hardest things for the Western mind to give up is
cheese. Let’s talk about that. – Because it’s a drug. So here’s your trifecta drugs: Dairy, gluten,
and sugar. All have an opiate-like effect on the brain. You know that cereal milk? That is absolutely a drug. So cheese has casomorphins. We get addicted to it. Right? And especially then you can also have the
intolerance issue where you have the IgGs and that’s why when you’re pulling these foods
out for three weeks you have to pull them out 100%. Because just a little bit keeps your immune
system fired up and keeps you craving them. – Got it. So it’s about pulling them out to ease up
the pressure on our immune system and also put ourselves in ketosis. – Well, no, it’s not about ketosis. This one’s not about ketosis. It’s actually about doing a reset. You’re pulling these foods out that could
be creating an inflammatory response to your body, that you could be intolerant to. You’ve got to clear it out and give yourself
a fresh start. So it’s basically a three week detox where
you’re getting rid of all of those immune complexes and the antibodies. When you get through that period, then you
go back. The challenge is when people go through these
three weeks and they pull all those foods out and they break the cravings, like if you
really pulled the dairy out, if you really did this, Vishen…will you do this? – I need a little bit of milk in my coffee. A little bit. Just a little bit. [crosstalk 00:14:55] – I tried the almond milk in this hotel. It’s not… – Why do you need it? Why do you need it? – Because milk has a substance that causes
the bitterness of coffee to get neutralized. So I like… – You should drink Bulletproof. Then you wouldn’t have this problem. – So add butter to it. – Why don’t you use Dave’s InstaMix and then
you don’t have an issue with this? Thank you. – Dave? – Dave have you not been bringing InstaMix
for Vishen? What the heck? – Okay, so that’s a fair deal. I’ll try Dave’s InstaMix. – All right. So for three weeks we are not going to…wait. Wait. – And for those of you Facebook, that’s Dave
Asprey Bulletproof Coffee InstaMix. – Three weeks we are not going to have dairy
starting now? – Three weeks? Okay. – Now? – Not even a little? – Starting now. No. You cannot have a little bit. No. – Like a dash. – No. – Like a raindrop. – It can’t be a… – Okay. All right. So… – If you knew that something was absolutely
toxic to your body would you have a little bit? – If it was delicious. – Really? – But I get what you’re saying. I’m just playing Devil’s Advocate because
we have a couple of thousand people watching us on Facebook and they’re going, “Oh no. Ice cream? What about ice cream? What about Ben and Jerry’s?” All those people. – Oh my gosh, So Delicious has a coconut ice
cream with one gram of sugar, sweetened with monk fruit and it rocks the world. – Say that name again? – So Delicious Dairy Free. – So Delicious, okay. – It comes in chocolate, vanilla bean, phenomenal. You can make this stuff at home, too, and
you can use either Stevia, erythritol, xylitol, or monk fruit as a sweetener. – So JJ, a couple of tough questions. Number one, what is the single biggest lie,
the single biggest brule, that everyone here is buying into when it comes to the food we
put in our body? – It’s about calories. It’s at the end of the day people feel that
it’s all about calories and that if you lower the calories that you can actually…and I’ve
had people tell me, “Well you can have that pie if you count your overall calories. As long as I count this in, it’ll be okay.” Or “I’ll eat this pie but then I’ll go run
for five miles.” Which doesn’t work either. Remember, our body is not a bank account. So this is a hard habit to break but I believe
we still get caught into this whole idea of calories and endurance training, and some
of the biggest issues I’ve seen with people with metabolism is people who do a lot of
endurance training and eat high carb diets. – I think the single…my favorite quote of
yours is, “Your body is not a bank account. It is a chemistry lab.” – Yes. – And what JJ’s saying by this is that this
whole thing about calories is rubbish. Calories don’t matter. Would that be correct? – Well here’s the thing. If you’re eating higher fat, optimal protein
and slow, low carbs with loads of non-starchy vegetables you will actually feel full. You won’t be hungry. You won’t ever think about well how much did
I eat? Can I have this much more? If you start counting calories it’s, like,
an alcoholic. You know? You start thinking, “Well can I have this
much?” It’s a complete wrong way to go. You want to break free of all this stuff. I see so many people in my world who diet
as a hobby. Right? And they try this one and this one. You’ve got to go through your own personal
discovery process to find what works for you. Which foods work for you? How much should you lower your sugar impact? When do you need to eat again? Are you better at every four hours or every
six hours? And really listen to that. And are you drinking enough water because
so often we’re not even hungry at all. We’re just thirsty but we haven’t had water
all day long. Right? By the time you’re thirsty you’ve really screwed
that up. – Right. That was another thing that I did in my biohacking
experiment on advice from Eric Edmeades and you say the same thing. I learned to recognize that hunger pangs are
sometimes simply thirst pangs. Evolutionary biology wise, if you go back
7,000 years, people got water from fruit. They got water from vegetables and so when
you would feel hungry it wasn’t because your body needed food. It was because your body needed water. So what you can train yourself to do is when
you feel hungry, drink a lot of water and it gets rid of that hunger while getting your
to avoid that dangerous snacking habit. – Yeah. I actually have people do that in their journal
and track it so that you’re not drinking while you’re eating. You’re drinking the majority of your water
in between your meals and then diluting your stomach acid, and then tracking that because
what you measure, you can improve. Of course what you measure and report on you
improve exponentially, but it’s one of these things at a time. If you decide I’m going to do all this stuff
tomorrow you’ll just get overwhelmed and a confused mind says no. Right? But if you said, “Okay, I’m just going to
start with, you know, the shake or I’m going to start with seven foods or I’m going to
start lowering my sugar impact…” Pick one thing that you know is your big issue. If it’s just water while you’re on this trip,
there’s water everywhere. It’d be an easy way to start. – And studies also show that if you’re fully
hydrated your metabolic rate goes up by as much as three percent, which can be significant. – You can burn, like, in terms of just…and
I’m talking calorie burn but, yeah, you can burn, like, 300 more calories a day just from
water intake. But if you are even one percent dehydrated,
it raises cortisol. And if you’re raising cortisol, that’s telling
your body to store more fat around your waist, it’s breaking down muscle, it’s making you
crave sugar, it’s making your gut more permeable. All bad stuff. – So one more tip. At this A-Fest you will notice that we made
available to you a lot of water and a lot of sparkling water. We set a simple rule for the hotel that when
waiters are going around with their trays of alcohol at this A-Fest, there should be
an equal amount of water options. Sparkling with lemon as well as regular water,
and I’m glad you guys like that. And that was one of the single biggest hacks
that I implemented in my life. Sparkling water. I used to hate it. My wife introduced it to me because it’s very
common in European society. Not as appreciated in the U.S. but sparkling
water actually helped me cut down on alcohol, on coffee, on a lot of other things. On the two gallons of milk I drink everyday. – Drank. – Just kidding but it’s an incredible, incredible,
incredible thing and it’s zero calories. Which actually doesn’t matter because they
don’t exist anyway. It’s just awesome. – Well if you had…if you thought that I’m
going to drink two glasses of water to every drink, you’re fine. – Yeah. – You know? I mean, unless you’re just standing guzzling
the entire time which I’m assuming you’re not going to do. But then you’re fine. So… – Yeah and if you do need alcohol you can
try a drink that Mia recommends at A-Fest and that is simply soda water with a little
dash of vodka. Right? So you can tell people that you’re drinking
pure sparkling water and look holier than thou, but really inside you’re learning to
dance better. But it’s also healthier. Less calories. So, JJ, what would be the final piece of advice
you would give to people in this room? – Well when that happened with my son, you
know, it made me realize that what I was doing was so much bigger than weight and, again,
that so many people I saw would say, “Oh, I hear what you’re saying.” And then I’d see them a couple months later
and they’d go, “Yeah, yeah, yeah. I’m going to do that.” Right? And I go, “Okay well when?” The biggest thing I say right now is start
now. You’ve been so good about what are the action
steps and there’s always…health is a process. We are never done. There’s always something that I’m working
on in my health and I’m sure as we’ve been talking there’s something that’s come up for
you that you know that you need to address. Probably a couple things but just pick one
that you’re going to commit to today. Not tomorrow. It’s very easy to say, “Well, I’m here. I’m on vacation.” But just do it today and find someone to tell
it to, because there’s nothing that supports success like an accountability partner and
they’re all over the room. Right? – Awesome. Thank you JJ. Please give JJ Virgin a round of applause. – Thank you. – Awesome. ♪ [music] ♪

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